new ecommerce cart must sell prints and downloads

Gene Tewksbury shared this idea 1 year ago
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The new cart system is nice,, but woefully incomplete.


Without the ability to control the size of the downloads (at different pricing)

AND

Sell prints (at different sizes and prices).


Then the new cart is all but useless to most photographers.


We can't all just go throwing digital downloads to every person who wants a photograph. Most artists want to sell prints and most freelancers sell downloads (at various sizes)... Both options are required for this cart to be useful.

Comments (17)

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Have to agree about the option to be able to sell prints with different settings.

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The very recent update to allow the compression of several files into one zipped document for download is necessary for commercial/advertising/editorial photographers, who deliver final digital files to clients and agencies, and we need to set up a price tag completely different to each download, according to the number of files to deliver to each project/client. I did not take advantage of the intro price for the Cart, waiting for improvements.

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This would fit in nicely with new PayPal e-commerce Cart and suit myself and many

other colleagues as well. Two requests in one how cool is that.

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+1

For some inspiration, see http://sytistdemo.picturesp...

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Nice example Mike... this is what Koken should have been when released.. .or certainly by now.. It's been years. Right now Koken is just an expensive gallery that does nothing that I cannot already do with simple Wordpress plugins. It's not the actual platform for photographers as it was marketed.

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One last comment regarding pricing: At this moment, Costco in the US is making very well color corrected prints, at a super substantial discount, compared to the prices of the site you are recommending, so I don't see the need to go into such complexity, if any customer can get much better pricing elsewhere.


Use the chart to charge your customers for digital downloads, get paid for your work, and leave everyone pay for their prints wherever they choose. Make a profit from the digital download, and forget the printing.

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Jorge, you're missing the point. If you're happy selling downloads exclusively, fine. That's YOUR business model.

There IS a market for selling prints. What photographers are asking here is simply to enable selling such prints through Koken.

I've used Costco btw. It's not bad, but it's also limited. You won't be using Costco for fine art printing. For high end prints I use a master printer. It would be nice to be able to sell them using Koken. A feature that I can't understand wasn't part of the Cart plugin since its inception. I am personally waiting for that feature to be implemented before I buy it.

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@Jérôme the latest version of the Cart plugin allows you to create custom options (ex. prints) in addition to digital downloads. Fulfillment of the prints is left to the Koken admin.

-Koken Suporrt

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Thanks Mike for the comment!! Exactly my point!! I feel Koken is working on doing better websites and not on how to supply a free or inexpensive e-commerce solution to wedding and social photographers, who BTW, can use an endless array of (paid) options already available online.


With a little coding on basic HTML5 and scripting, you can customize any such page so you make it look like your client is not leaving your site.


For example, I do not like much the solution provided for the Blog in Koken, and then, I just customized a basic WordPress template to look pretty much like my site. Take a look at http://www.jorgeparra.com/Blog. You go back and forth and you barely notice you are off-site, and trust me, I have seen way much better implementations indeed!!


My point is that Social/Wed online commercial platforms have been working endlessly into improving e-commerce solutions. You are asking Koken to reinvent the wheel, only to be able to sell 4x6 prints?


And yes you are correct: probably no fine art photographer would use Costco for fine printing, but sites like Fine Art America and several others already offer their online commerce solution for this field, this is, provided you are willing to pay for the service...

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I'm a bit confused where this thread is going, We are photographers who produce and sell our own prints and canvas' and not a printshop, we wouldn't use Costco or other Online Print services for our photos or canvas'.


We have tried a few sites, we like the Koken format and the library manager and its integration with Lightroom. What the site seems to lack is cart with the ability to provide our customers the ability order prints, canvas' and downloads in various different sizes online.


The purpose of this plugin is to address this I hope, also maybe PayPal as a payment option (one can hope) please. We are not interested in custom coding and redirecting to other sites/web pages to facilitate this. For us and others like us, on the face of it this plugin has a lot of potential to give us the e-commerce web selling/gallery platform we are looking for.


R

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Roger, I agree with you again; Gene's proposal and the topic of this thread is for a solution within Koken.

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Well, I guess Koken will have to do some polling as to find out how many wedding shooters are actually using the platform, and how many would use the plugin and make a decision based on real numbers.


I for one, would not need going any further, since I sell fine art prints to collectors, but not only I supervise the proofing and eventual printing of the limited edition prints from each image, also, I only provide signed prints, properly stored in adequate archival boxes, envelopes ,etc,ec. and for this reason, not even if Koken does the upgrade for selling 4x6 and 8x10's, I would not use it.


The downloads, OTOH, are useful for designers and advertising agencies, which are my main clients.

I find it very useful that they can see the file online and review it and approve it, but then they have to pay on the spot to be able to download the Hi Res files or the Zipped folder to their computers, which is probably the logic that Koken was using when they devised the plugin.


I am not familiar with the company Koken has made arrangements with for credit card processing but there is little difference with PayPal or others, regarding their fees.


Jorge

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Pixies let you create custom made products and sell them,they just charge a fee. Some photographers print and mount the images themselves.

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I love the update cart. But can you add an option? The different size downloads. Also Important:choose options for each image

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I'm going to go ahead and mark this idea complete, as the primary idea of custom options for prints has been added in Cart v1.04. There was a little bit of comment drift and would like to move discussion on those ideas to their own threads.


PayPal Plugin for Online Sales

http://feedback.koken.me/to...


Cart to allow downloads at separate prices & sizes

http://feedback.koken.me/to...


Things we have planed for future updates to the Cart plugin:

  • PayPal
  • More than 10 custom options
  • Image specific custom options (not just app-wide)
  • Custom download sizes (based on idea popularity)


-Koken Support

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Koken:


It seems you have made some sort of update to the cart based on the last post.

But where can I see a breakdown of everything I can do with the cart OR even better test drive the plugin before purchase.

I don't wish to spend $50 on a plugin only to find out it does not meet my needs and your description on the website is lacking enough detail on just what can be done.

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@gene the description and screenshots have been updated to reflect recent Cart updates.

https://store.koken.me/plug...

Below is an unofficial place to view the published Cart plug-in.

http://mike.teamneto.com/ko...

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